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. >> and paul ryan is another guy to watch. he is the guy who has the real support of the house conservatives and a lot of people who don't love boehner, they love paul ryan and ryan at the final minute of plan b and he was whipping for plan b and came out in support of plan b, and if paul ryan the most high profile guy who could be a consensus candidate against boehner is not even interested. >> if the president gets it through, doesn't this mean that going forward he has to negotiate with mitch mcconnell and what is the point of talking to the house republicans at this poi point? >> you to include john boehner because he is the speaker of the house, and in control of of the house, but you are making a fair point that the power of the republicans to drive the debate is being under question right now, and we are not sure how boehner can do it moving forward coming to the debt ceiling, and people will look at this experience on the fiscal cliff as an example of how john boehner may or may not drive the discussion. >> and also at
. >> and paul ryan is another guy to watch. he is the guy who has the real support of the house conservatives and a lot of people who don't love boehner, they love paul ryan and ryan at the final minute of plan b and he was whipping for plan b and came out in support of plan b, and if paul ryan the most high profile guy who could be a consensus candidate against boehner is not even interested. >> if the president gets it through, doesn't this mean that going forward he has to...
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one is, i think my answer is choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. just because a, it never gave him the lift that anybody thought it would. he effectively neutered mitt romney, whether it was the stuff with todd aken, or the ryan budget, there was no way to run away from it. >> alex and i were on the same wavelength, picking paul ryan was the worst move, and not only for those reasons, but mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly. there were questions after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and be the number two. and i think a lot of people who were thinking about maybe going with romney, not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was, how extreme his positions on social security and medicare, but they also just felt like he was not quite ready for prime time. so i think it was a very bad strategic move for them. >> steve, the worst move? >> let me come at it from a slightly different angle. >> you always do. you don't have to preface that. >> from the standpoin
one is, i think my answer is choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. just because a, it never gave him the lift that anybody thought it would. he effectively neutered mitt romney, whether it was the stuff with todd aken, or the ryan budget, there was no way to run away from it. >> alex and i were on the same wavelength, picking paul ryan was the worst move, and not only for those reasons, but mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly. there were questions after paul...
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one is, i think my answer is choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. just because a, it never gave him the list that anything thought it would be. he effectively neutered mitt romney, whether it was the stuff with todd akin, or the ryan budget, nowhere to run away from it. >> alex and i were on the same wavelength, picking paul ryan, not only for those reasons, but mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly. there were questions after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and be the number two. and i think a lot of people who thought about going with mitt romney, not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was, how extreme his positions on social security and medicare, but they also just felt like he was not quite ready for prime time. so i think it was a very bad strategic move for them. >> steve, the worst move? >> let me come at it from a strategic move. >> we always do that. >> it is the booze talking, i don't know. from the standpoint of voters who -- you know, i thi
one is, i think my answer is choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. just because a, it never gave him the list that anything thought it would be. he effectively neutered mitt romney, whether it was the stuff with todd akin, or the ryan budget, nowhere to run away from it. >> alex and i were on the same wavelength, picking paul ryan, not only for those reasons, but mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly. there were questions after paul ryan's debate performance...
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ryan really wants it. do you think that people having these types of perspectives, like a mark mckinnan, that doesn't really ring true coming into the new year for speaker boehner. >> look, the problem for republicans and for moderate republicans like mark mckinnan is most of the people in the house are not of the mark mckinnan stripe. these are people who are from districts where they've won with 60% of the vote or more. the majority of them. the majority of their constituents don't want them to compromise on things that they find important like taxes. why someone like mitt romney winds up getting pulled down because of the gop brand, but for these members of congress? they're not at all concerned about the republican image nationally. their concern is about getting reelected. >> you bring up mitt romney getting pulled down by the gop brand. it could be the gop brand is being pulled down by mitt romney, or at least tag romney and what he said about he's recent comments. if we're talking about hand bren gr
ryan really wants it. do you think that people having these types of perspectives, like a mark mckinnan, that doesn't really ring true coming into the new year for speaker boehner. >> look, the problem for republicans and for moderate republicans like mark mckinnan is most of the people in the house are not of the mark mckinnan stripe. these are people who are from districts where they've won with 60% of the vote or more. the majority of them. the majority of their constituents don't want...
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ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false. i hate 20 go too far on a holiday metaphor, but if you go back and you read charles dickens, you see where the two gentlemen come to visit ebenezer scrooge on christmas eve and suggest to him that he might want to give a little to
ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false. i hate 20 go too far on a holiday metaphor, but if you go back and you read charles dickens, you see where the two gentlemen come to visit ebenezer scrooge on christmas eve and suggest to him that he might want to give a little to
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ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false.
ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false.
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whoever is in power, if paul ryan was enacting his budget, we would be raising the debt ceiling right now. and he, too, would have a problem with this group of people. >> you know, there's a front-page piece in "the times" either yesterday -- or maybe today, i'm not sure. i lose track of my days at my age. >> what age is that? >> indicating that the power of the tea party within the house -- >> yeah. >> -- has been diminished somewhat because of the elections. do you agree with that? >> yes, but they still have enough numbers to affect the course of legislation. what happened with john boehner right before they departed where he couldn't get that plan "b" vote passed was amazing. to have a rebuke like that of the speaker of your own party over something that was relatively minor in scope. i mean, he could have had the grand deal. he went back and said, i need this for my own political benefit. we need to get rid of this issue that we're holding everything hostage to protect millionaires so that we can negotiate from a better vantage point. please trust me with this. and he went to his
whoever is in power, if paul ryan was enacting his budget, we would be raising the debt ceiling right now. and he, too, would have a problem with this group of people. >> you know, there's a front-page piece in "the times" either yesterday -- or maybe today, i'm not sure. i lose track of my days at my age. >> what age is that? >> indicating that the power of the tea party within the house -- >> yeah. >> -- has been diminished somewhat because of the...
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what i find interesting and ryan i want to get you in on this. what she is saying is chuck hagel is now the decoy. you see some people being behind michelle. and one of those luminaries bill kristol, paul wolfewitz has praised her. is this a back handed strategy to build support for the first potential defense secretary? >> i think it almost has to be. because it would be so easy to put him out there and defeat a republican. because it would be a political win/win for him then. if he gets confirmed, then they've got hagel. if he doesn't, then republicans look insanely obstructionist by blocking somebody in their own party from joining the cabinet. so why couldn't obama do that? one answer might be that he doesn't actually want him to be his first choice. you know, especially coming after the entire susan rice thing. they could have forced republicans to knock down susan rice in a more official way. but they let him get away without more heat. >> i love the idea that instead of a republican no offense to the republican party believe it or not comi
what i find interesting and ryan i want to get you in on this. what she is saying is chuck hagel is now the decoy. you see some people being behind michelle. and one of those luminaries bill kristol, paul wolfewitz has praised her. is this a back handed strategy to build support for the first potential defense secretary? >> i think it almost has to be. because it would be so easy to put him out there and defeat a republican. because it would be a political win/win for him then. if he gets...